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734. Why We Are So Polarized and What Can Heal It – With Mark Kessler

I sat down again with Miles Kessler, an old friend and long-time aikido and meditation teacher, to explore the urgent issue of polarization. We talk about why societies feel more divided than ever, how conflict shows up in the body and mind, and what we can learn from years of aikido, meditation, and peace-building projects in places like Cyprus and the Middle East.

Miles brings deep wisdom from his work in conflict zones and spiritual practice, and we reflect on the tools that actually help people stay open in the face of division. We also touch on burnout, the limits of dialogue, and why embodied presence is so vital when the stakes are high.

Read more about MIles’ work here: https://theintegraldojo.com/about/

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Mark Walsh

Mark Walsh

Founder of The Embodied Facilitator CourseEmbodied Yoga Principles, Integration Training and The Embodiment Podcast.

Patricia Aguirre

Patricia is a Therapist, Yoga Teacher and Family Constellations Facilitator. She is a lead trainer of the Trauma Coaching certification and the Courage to Lead course for female facilitators.

Karin van Maanen

Karin is a yoga & meditation teacher and embodiment trainer with an MSc in Mindfulness Studies. She's co-author of Embodied Meditation and is lead trainer on the Embodied Meditation and Embodied Toolkit certifications.

Christina Dohr

Christina is an embodiment coach and somatic educator with an MSc in Social Sciences. She's co-lead trainer on the Certification of Embodiment Coaching and Courage to Lead courses. Christina combines her work as an Aikido blackbelt, dance and improvisation in guiding groups and individuals.

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