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695. Why Strength Still Matters: Masculinity, Honour & Identity – With Jack Donovan

I’m joined by author and men’s work coach Jack Donovan for a deep, honest chat about modern masculinity. We get into why strength matters, how weakness is being sold as virtue, and why the idea that we’re all “blank slates” might be doing more harm than good.

We talk martial arts, the value of tactical virtues, and what honour really means in a world that often dismisses it. Jack also breaks down the meaning behind “far right” labels, internet culture clashes, and how Nietzsche’s ideas can actually help when you’re trying to raise strong, grounded boys today.

Lots of practical wisdom in this one—whether you’re a dad, a mentor, or just figuring out what it means to be a man in 2025.

Read more about Jack’s work here: jack-donovan.com

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Jack Donovan is a writer and speaker who has spent over a decade exploring masculinity and masculine philosophy. Known for his “gonzo” anthropological approach, he focuses on big ideas and cultural patterns around male identity. His bestselling book The Way of Men has become a go-to read for soldiers, athletes, fathers, and leaders around the world. His latest work, Fire in the Dark, dives into mythic masculine roles and introduces his evolving philosophy of Solar Idealism. Jack is also the founder of the international men’s group The Order of Fire and a frequent guest on podcasts and stages like the 21 Convention.

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Christina is an embodiment coach and somatic educator with an MSc in Social Sciences. She's co-lead trainer on the Certification of Embodiment Coaching and Courage to Lead courses. Christina combines her work as an Aikido blackbelt, dance and improvisation in guiding groups and individuals.

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